The next chapter of Guild Wars (expansion packs)

Here's a post (http://guildwars.ogaming.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7876&st=10&#entry89086) Gaile Gray, ArenaNet Community Relations Manager, made recently over at the GW O'Gaming forums about the next chapter of Guild Wars:

"Just a thought, because there's so much speculation. The next chapter of Guild Wars will be about equal in content to the original chapter. Not "one more measly act" or "another profession" or "a few more skills." It's like another game!"

Great, I am so glad that the expansions/mods are so large. 8)

I just bought the game and was wondering how/what the new chapters would be like.

[Exiled Child]

Equivelent to the first chapter.

Wow, I cannot wait.

No! I must finish the first one first!

[Mercenary]

Sweet. The only problem is they are also as expensive as the current one lol.

[Serenity]

Yeah, but it's a one time buy! No monthly fees! Hardly gets better than that.

[Natasha]

But with a game that doesn't charge a monthly fee, is it really fair to expect -- even to hope -- that the next chapter will be pennies on the dollar?

For starters, monthly fees are generally associated with MMOGs, which Guild Wars is not. All quests are instanced and towns simply work as social hubs. There is no vast world in which everyone can simultaneously hunt and interact in. There are simply box worlds that people can travel into with limited parties.

I think it is more than fair, given the circumstances. Honestly, I wouldn't pay more than $30 for the next chapter.

Yeah, but it's a one time buy! No monthly fees! Hardly gets better than that.

So instead of getting content monthly, you get content every year or so.. for $50. Whether you like it or not, you are still paying for content in a Diablo II'esque world.
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[Spux]

There will still be content updates through streaming but there will be a huge content update every 6-9 months that you do NOT have to purchase. I would personally pay whatever they ask since it is the same a mount of content as the full game. I look at them as more of GW2, GW3 then expansions.

[Mickey_ETC]

I Take it as this I will not pay to play a gaME once i have bought it FINAL

the £30 for expansion is fine by me i dont have to buy it if i dont need to ,,but i can still play the game free of charge,, this is the clients choice.
On games like camelot and wow you pay a montly upkeep to play the game even tho the content still stays the same,, now this is a RIPOFF. I think arenanet is doing a fine thing already took £100 of me in 3 games and thats how its going to stay if i had done the same of other games itll cost me more now as its nearly up on the month and they want their money. keep up the good work arenanet WE ALL LOVE THE GAME :P

[walkerx]

I agree, even if the expansions costs me £50 a year with no monthly subs then as far as I will say they'll get my money every year. I've paid for games in the past and then had to pay monthly fees to play them online meaning so games work out at over £150 a year in cost.

So I've stopped playing the other charge-to-play games, and now well and truly stuck into GW.

Knight of Ni [KNEE]

[Kevo]

In all honesty, I avoided MMO games for the very reason that there was a monthly charge! I only play the buy it and play it games. Though, I do like this one so much, I'll probably get the next chapter.

I feel that if one is going to chareg a monthly fee, then the game should be initially free, or only a few bucks to cover the suppliers handling and middlemen services. Then charge the 10-15 a month. It still isn't for me, but at least it would be fairer, IMHO.

[Reverend Cash]

In all honesty, I avoided MMO games for the very reason that there was a monthly charge! I only play the buy it and play it games.

Huzzah! That's why I changed over to GW from WoW. But the entire idea of a expansion that's worth it rocks. Unlike Diablo or other games of that sort where it's 54.11$ down the drain for what's equal to another level, but I would gladly pay that for another entire game. :!:

[Kevo]

I've been playing now for three weeks, or so, and I can't get enough of this game. That said, If I had to pay 15 USD a month for it, then I don't know if I could justify the cost from a family man/financial standpoint. I guess it kinda depends on one's priorities.

[oblivious]

well.. imagine this.... your paying monthly for GW... then the expansion comes out.. and ya got to pay monthly for that too right? I mean what if you want to play the original AND the expansion.. wouldn't that be 2 monthly fees?

[oblivious]

payin 40$ twice is better then payin like 20$ 12 times

[Bel Javelin]

As far as updates go I am sure GuldWars can't be compared to Diablo, the time it took per update on Diablo was the biggest letdown for me, the biggest attraction for me to GuildWars was the promised expansions every 6-9 months and no online charges :D

Though I don't know how they are going to handle keeping me interested in building my character... now can everyone stop posting as I should be out farming as I still need 20k and 200 tan hides for my new armour :wink:

[oblivious]

in diablo II it wasnt upgrades they called them "patches" because most of the times it wasnt to add sumting to the game but merely fix thechnicalties and remove a bug in the game's system

[ShadowGryphon]

Well if it'll put your mind at easy, I'll pass along a bit of news that I gleaned about Sorrows furnace............ it's allegedly a free expansion.
I'm not sure how reliable this is, but if it's so, that should take the heat off some of us.

[Mahomet The Templar]

:wink:

[Avenger]

Sorrow's Furnace IS a free update :wink:

[neversummer84]

man you guys are all making me speculate who is an arenanet developer, with your wink winks and little knowing smiles

Anyone who is a dev that I know of is listed as such. The fact is, ArenaNet has repeatedly stated that the Summer Update: Sorrow's Furnace is free:

"As part of our commitment to bringing you new content via our free live updates, the first streaming update for Guild Wars offers players access to two extensive new explorable areas: the barren expanse of Grenth's Footprint and the fiery depths of Sorrow's Furnace. You can get a sneak peek at these two areas today, with concept art and a bit of the lore on this page (http://www.guildwars.com/gameinfo/lore/e32005-sorrowsfurnace.html)."

[liste]

well.. imagine this.... your paying monthly for GW... then the expansion comes out.. and ya got to pay monthly for that too right? I mean what if you want to play the original AND the expansion.. wouldn't that be 2 monthly fees?

nope.

the way subscription games work, is that you buy the game, which include a CD key, that will activate 1 account. that account costs subscription. Consider it a rent.

you buy the expansion, which includes a CD key, that you can then activate for your account. you still only pay rent once.

compare it to a house. buy a new microwave oven, and you'll still only pay once, and your rent wont go up because of a microwave oven.


:)

[KoTo911]

In all honesty, I avoided MMO games for the very reason that there was a monthly charge! I only play the buy it and play it games.

Huzzah! That's why I changed over to GW from WoW. But the entire idea of a expansion that's worth it rocks. Unlike Diablo or other games of that sort where it's 54.11$ down the drain for what's equal to another level, but I would gladly pay that for another entire game. :!:

I did the same thing, especially since my WoW subscription ended . . . :(

[neversummer84]

alot of people seem to be coming here from WoW. i like it :twisted:

[KoTo911]

BTW . . . sry if this was already posted . . . but, when will the next chapter ( expansion pack ) of Guild Wars be coming out?

[KoTo911]

Well if it'll put your mind at easy, I'll pass along a bit of news that I gleaned about Sorrows furnace............ it's allegedly a free expansion.
I'm not sure how reliable this is, but if it's so, that should take the heat off some of us.

that would be awesome, cause i'm sumthime coming up short on my $$$

[KoTo911]

alot of people seem to be coming here from WoW. i like it :twisted:

Did u come from WoW also?

[neversummer84]

nope. the only pay MMOG i ever played was earth and beyond. despite being very excited about the game, i decided not to play WoW because I started college at the same time. I couldn't afford the time or money to play WoW

[KoTo911]

[quote="neversummer84"]nope. the only pay MMOG i ever played was earth and beyond.

I've never heard of that game . . . is it new?

[neversummer84]

no, its old, like 3 or 4 years. it was cool, just toward the end took too much time. i made it to lvl 115 out of 125 but it was taking forever to do anything. i still get a little nostaligic about it. all those places and people i spent hours with are all gone. :cry: yep imma dork to the max :D

[Avenger]

BTW . . . sry if this was already posted . . . but, when will the next chapter ( expansion pack ) of Guild Wars be coming out?

The date isnt exactly set yet (from what i know) They said it would come out in the middle of next year.

[romie_24]

good

[ShadowGryphon]

correct me if I'm wrong here , but , I was under the impression Sorrows Furnace was supposed to be coming out THIS summer ....... what's the story on that and why hasn't it made it's appearance ? I mean, summer IS nearly over

[KoTo911]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!! SUMMER'S ALMOST OVER!!!!!!!! yes, sorrow's furnace should be making it's appearance anytime now from wat i hear.

[neversummer84]

the winners of the boss contest will be announced on the 10 so it has to be after that

[KoTo911]

wat is the boss contest, and where will the winners be announced?

[neversummer84]

http://www.guildwars.com/events/brand-the-boss/default.html you cant enter anymore though. it was over july 29th

[KoTo911]

that's pretty cool, too bad i didn't check that out earlier. Did u enter? if so wat name did u use?

[neversummer84]

yeah i entered, but i miss read that you were only supposed to enter 1 name. i entered 6, one name for each profession:

Elementalist: Marrix Stonewind
Mesmer: Yyuok Mindhorror
Monk: Homsoot Coldsalve
Necromancer: Fow Spiritminer
Ranger: Pock Painfletch
Warrior: Jagen Mountainsmith

[KoTo911]

wow, i would have never thought of those names. u have a very creative mind, young grasshopper *in the words of yoda* LoL :D

[ShadowGryphon]

um........since when did Yoda speak like a reject from the Kung Fu TV show ?! :shock:

[KoTo911]

LoL, i guess ur right. Good job young grasshopper *i bow*

[Velath]

Yoda would be more like "Very creative, young padawan's is"

And I promise I'll never be this geeky again!

[neversummer84]

its the 10th, and they still havent posted the bass name winners yet! and i go on vacation at 5:00 till Sunday. The suspense will kill me! :shock:

on the yoda topic, from bash.org:

(XisXisXis): I wanna find an old Star Wars pinball machine
(XisXisXis): just so I can hear Yoda say, "Extra Ball, you have"

[neversummer84]

gahhhhh! are they trying to kill me?

"We have increased "naming rights" for the Summer Update: Sorrow's Furnace boss monsters by 400%, and will be announcing the names of 24 winning entries -- 6 Grand Prize Winners and 18 Finalists! In order to allow time for this contest expansion, we will be making the winner announcements on Friday, August 12th. Check back then!"

sigh, "you know your a geek when...

[Sheridan_rebel]

a expansion would be great but i just started this game like 5 days ago and my computer messed up adn i only played it for like 2 and a half hours so a exp that would be like a hole new game would be hard cause i aint got to play this one yet

[Avenger]

i think your confused.. this is the Sorrow's Furnace free summer update.. Its just adding a new area later in the game. The expansion (also know as GW2)
Is coming out in the middle of next year

[Sheridan_rebel]

Sory i didnt read it all right. I have got to learn how to understant all of what is writin befor i say somthing it takes alot for me to understand.



sorry if i sound kinda messed up to all yall but i aint got a good vocab so if i say a word that aint got a meanin tell me i ill try to fix ....i aint retarted i sware

[Guild of the Lords]

yeah he is just a redneck so leave him be and im not far from one ma self yall here

[KoTo911]

i need to ask u guys, has sorrow's furnace come out yet? cause i wouldnt know since i'm only on the dragon's lair mission.

[neversummer84]

nope. if you want to find out that kinda stuff check guildwars.com

[maldarkangel]

nerd owwww my download is finished

[Bel Javelin]

Bellevue, Wa. (August 29, 2005) - ArenaNet®, creators of the #1 selling competitive online roleplaying game, Guild Wars®, announces the release of the much-anticipated Guild Wars update: Sorrow’s Furnace. To be released on September 7, 2005, the update will be available free to all Guild Wars account holders and will stream to them live at game log-in.

:D :D :D

[KoTo911]

FINALLY!!! lol

[ShadowGryphon]

Nice!

[Mrs Pennyfeather]

I agree, even if the expansions costs me £50 a year with no monthly subs then as far as I will say they'll get my money every year. I've paid for games in the past and then had to pay monthly fees to play them online meaning so games work out at over £150 a year in cost.

So I've stopped playing the other charge-to-play games, and now well and truly stuck into GW.

Knight of Ni [KNEE]
this quote really confused me....
if you buy the expansion does it cost £50 a year to play
or
does each expansion pack that comes out annuallu cost £50?
if its the £50 to play a year then by the end of the year i will cease to exist.- my dad would kill me...................

[Rayburn Windwalker]

....i aint retarted i sware

:shock:

I know my tax money isn't supporting YOUR education.

[ShadowGryphon]

I agree, even if the expansions costs me £50 a year with no monthly subs then as far as I will say they'll get my money every year. I've paid for games in the past and then had to pay monthly fees to play them online meaning so games work out at over £150 a year in cost.

So I've stopped playing the other charge-to-play games, and now well and truly stuck into GW.

Knight of Ni [KNEE]
this quote really confused me....
if you buy the expansion does it cost £50 a year to play
or
does each expansion pack that comes out annuallu cost £50?
if its the £50 to play a year then by the end of the year i will cease to exist.- my dad would kill me...................

Neither. you buy the expansion and play it, period. Once you have it you no longer need to pay for it.
It would be a nasty trick on NCsoft and Arenanets part if they made this a yearly subscription game, but there is nothing in the EULA (end user liscense agreement) that indicates this however, so you're safe.
As far as cost... I understand it to be $30 per expansion (unsure what the conversion to Pounds or Euros is) but it could be higher or lower. I'm sure there is someone here who can give you a somewhat more exact pricing.
But all in all, you needn't worry about Arenanet ripping you off, as they have, thus far, been very honorable and fair in their dealings with the players.

[Mrs Pennyfeather]

shadow you saved my gaming life ;)
i owe you big time.!!!!

[ShadowGryphon]

:shock:
um...... no, not really.... I mean, you would have found out what I told you eventually.

And please, Just call me Gryph.

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[Mrs Pennyfeather]

do i have to pay after the 30 days or can i delete it?

[ShadowGryphon]

if you want to keep it you have to pay ...... otherwise it locks itself and stops working until you acquire a key.

[Medion]

Neither. you buy the expansion and play it, period. Once you have it you no longer need to pay for it.
It would be a nasty trick on NCsoft and Arenanets part if they made this a yearly subscription game, but there is nothing in the EULA (end user liscense agreement) that indicates this however, so you're safe.
As far as cost... I understand it to be $30 per expansion (unsure what the conversion to Pounds or Euros is) but it could be higher or lower. I'm sure there is someone here who can give you a somewhat more exact pricing.
But all in all, you needn't worry about Arenanet ripping you off, as they have, thus far, been very honorable and fair in their dealings with the players.

I think I read somewhere the price would be between $19.99 and $29.99 every expansion. So it`s dollars.
Don`t know what that will be in euros and pounds :oops: :cry:

[DarkSun]

It had better not pay to play. I hate doing that.... I have avoided it for a long time but if it come to that I will make the only exception of my life and pay to play Guild Wars.

[lilyve]

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