Is guild wars for us?

[Voltare]

I am 33, my wife is 32. We both are regular Diablo 2 : LOD players,and are looking for a similar experience with a newer game.We've played Everquest,DAOC,Ultima Online, tried sw:g( talk about buggy software),even played Runescape and Planeshift( some free 3d mmorpgs),Along with countless Isometric 2d mmorpgs.........We like battle.net, but what we like about diablo 2 is the lobby-server system,the range of characters, and of course, all the items you can collect.I've heard Guild Wars is similar to d2......do you guys think it could pull a couple of old( heh) d2 players?

[Shannai]

Oh yes i think it will, i too am a fan of the Blizz games and after WoW was released i thought this is a good game ....problem is WoW got too boring ...actually very boring after 30 odd levels of grind u kinda give up the will to live.

GW is totally different experience for me and i love playing it ...ive never really played PVP before but am really loving it now

Hope to see you game side :-)

[Biltmore]

I am a former Diablo and Diablo2 player myself and I really enjoy Guild Wars.

The knock I have against the game is that you can only create 4 characters and there are 6 primary professions. (It would be nice to be able to have a primary of each profession.) But this allows you to make all 4 warrior primaries if you so choose, as opposed to the Diablos where you were able to just have one of each class of character.

Since the NCSoft/Guild Wars team came from Blizzard you will see some similarities between the Diablos and this game. There are some differences, characters only go to lvl 20, not 99; skill tree, with GW you are able to place points into a certain skill and then remove them later; primary professions, but with guild wars you can have a primary and a secondary profession (think of a barbarian/wizard combination or an amazon/druid hybrid) and you can choose different features from each profession to incorporate into your character build.

While Guild Wars does have a lot of PvP options and GvG options you have the ability to do quests and also if you prefer solo play then you have the option of getting henchmen to party with you during your quests. To complete some quests you must party with other NPC's especially in pre-searing Ascalon.

Unless you party with other players then you will not see them during your quests. You will run into them when you are in town. Think of the towns kind of like a combination of being in a Diablo town (Tristram) but that combined with when you first log onto Diablo and it's like a big chat room.

Definitely give the game a shot. I am sure that you will enjoy it. I hope my 2 cents was helpful.

[walkerx]

i still play diablo2 as well and i'm now over 35 and still find it enjoyable - i like GW because it is roughly based on diablo, but with some added twists. Give it a shot you've got no harm in trying it - i've heard game are now doing it for about £18.

If both of you are into this type of game and you've got a network at home, you could buy a second copy if you end up liking it, that way then you can both do missions together.

You're very lucky your partner is into rpg's, etc. I wish my missus was, instead of complaining everytime I go on.

[Mattinator]

I was also a huge Diablo II player, and I love Guild Wars. There are several similarities, but the games are not the same. Guild Wars, for instance requires much more strategy and the characters are actually balanced... which d2 definately isn't.

I reccommend that you go to www.guildwars.com to find out all of the information about the game, or just look around the KT site where there is tons of information on the game :)

[Litebringer]

matt what are you talking about? d2 is ballanced. its the first hammerdin to wlak outside the blood moor, of course that is until the FoH paladin teleports to him from cold plains :P

[fix dark]

I am a former Diablo and Diablo2 player myself and I really enjoy Guild Wars.

The knock I have against the game is that you can only create 4 characters and there are 6 primary professions. (It would be nice to be able to have a primary of each profession.) But this allows you to make all 4 warrior primaries if you so choose, as opposed to the Diablos where you were able to just have one of each class of character.

Since the NCSoft/Guild Wars team came from Blizzard you will see some similarities between the Diablos and this game. There are some differences, characters only go to lvl 20, not 99; skill tree, with GW you are able to place points into a certain skill and then remove them later; primary professions, but with guild wars you can have a primary and a secondary profession (think of a barbarian/wizard combination or an amazon/druid hybrid) and you can choose different features from each profession to incorporate into your character build.

While Guild Wars does have a lot of PvP options and GvG options you have the ability to do quests and also if you prefer solo play then you have the option of getting henchmen to party with you during your quests. To complete some quests you must party with other NPC's especially in pre-searing Ascalon.

Unless you party with other players then you will not see them during your quests. You will run into them when you are in town. Think of the towns kind of like a combination of being in a Diablo town (Tristram) but that combined with when you first log onto Diablo and it's like a big chat room.

Definitely give the game a shot. I am sure that you will enjoy it. I hope my 2 cents was helpful.

What he said. He gave a great description of GW coming from a D2 player.

And Litebringer, there is no way D2 is balanced well. First of all, your success in D2 all comes from whether or not you have good items, whereas in GW it's not really about what items you have or how long you've been playing, but the skill you incorporate into your strategy. Also, everyone knows that the Bowazon pretty much owns all in D2.

[Biltmore]

Also, everyone knows that the Bowazon pretty much owns all in D2.


The Bowazons were pretty good, but a lvl 30 hydra and lvl frozen orb were a pretty tough combo too. Especially when you started running into physical immunes.

Another feature that I like about this game is how large the map is. To think of how many times I did those Bloody Foothill runs just to level up, or did the Pindleskin, Mempheisto, Baal runs trying to get an item.

On a side note; my bowazon, barbarian, and sorceress were all in the 80s for character level, and I never once found a stone of jordan. Yet every time I would log on in the end there would be a dozen people spamming some for sale.

That's what really ruined the game for me. All the item dupes and hacks. When a lvl 5 bowazon can kill a lvl 89 sorceress in 5 seconds you know something's up.

[Voltare]

only prob i got with me wifey is......my pally is level 68....her sorc is level 48.....and she can't stand it!i'm also a hobbyist programmer, making my own ( for me only----not sure if i'm eeven gonna release it on the 'net)3d rpg, and she supports that ,too....heh...when we went for our gamecube today, she reccommended resident evil!( i also found the zelda oot for gamecube.......) but, yeah, after 5 years of playing d2.....i think it's time for something else......

[Spux]

And Litebringer, there is no way D2 is balanced well.

I'm pretty sure he was joking..

[Mattinator]

And Litebringer, there is no way D2 is balanced well.

I'm pretty sure he was joking..

Ya, lol that was sarcasm... it's just like World of Warcraft is balanced :roll: and starcraft when it was released :? .... notice the pattern?? Blizzard just isnt very good at making balanced games :P

[Natasha]

I am 33, my wife is 32. We both are regular Diablo 2 : LOD players,and are looking for a similar experience with a newer game.We've played Everquest,DAOC,Ultima Online, tried sw:g( talk about buggy software),even played Runescape and Planeshift( some free 3d mmorpgs),Along with countless Isometric 2d mmorpgs.........We like battle.net, but what we like about diablo 2 is the lobby-server system,the range of characters, and of course, all the items you can collect.I've heard Guild Wars is similar to d2......do you guys think it could pull a couple of old( heh) d2 players?

Guild Wars and Diablo 2 are extremely similar. It isn't really an ever evolving world and it is pretty straight forward. I think Diablo 2 is a little more fun and less of a grind, though. The story that carries you through PvM missions in Guild Wars is sub-par. PvP is enjoyable, but can be extremely tedious. All content in Guild Wars is instanced, so it is pretty similar to Diablo 2 the way content is run.

Diablo 2 Lobbies:
All servers are run through a lobby. There are numerous different lobbies and players can create their own. These are essentially social hubs from which you meet up with people to play.

Guild Wars Lobbies:
Towns and outposts in Guild Wars function as social hubs. There are numerous different districts from which people can meet others.

Diablo 2 Server System:
You can choose to play by yourself. You can choose to play with only the people you want to play with. You can also choose to join a game and let anyone else join. You can also solo the game or you can run through it with a party.

Guild Wars Server System:
All missions have a set number of players who can play through it. All content is instanced, therefore you will never see more than your party. You can play by yourself, but you will most likely use henchmen to fight with you. Since all content is instanced through a party, random people will never join a mission. If someone in your party leaves the mission, someone else can not join.

Diablo 2 Server Limit:
There is a limit of 8 people per server in Diablo 2. You can have less and still be viable. Anyone on the server can be a part of your party.

Guild Wars Party Limit:
PvM missions have varying party limits, but they cap out at 8.

Diablo 2 Story:
Diablo 2 has an intriguing story that carries you through acts. This story is explained through quests and through beautifully done cinematics.

Guild Wars Story:
Guild Wars has a really boring story that is dragged out through the game. The story is explained through cinematics using in-game art and graphics.

Diablo 2 Combat:
Hack and slash.

Guild Wars Combat:
Though Guild Wars combat isn't too much better than Diablo 2 combat, it is a little less hack and slash. Sometimes with a little extra skill, a player will be able to win a battle they normally couldn't.

Diablo 2 Skills:
The Diablo 2 skill system is pretty straight forward. You have some choice,
but you follow a skill ladder.

Guild Wars Skills:
Guild Wars has a lot of different skills. So many that they are pretty overwhelming. You'll learn that plenty of them aren't actually that useful, though. A lot of the skills are simply fluff. In my eyes, this is how they "hide" the skill ladder that Diablo 2 used.

The Bowazons were pretty good, but a lvl 30 hydra and lvl frozen orb were a pretty tough combo too. Especially when you started running into physical immunes.

I had a level 98 Bow Amazon with a Windforce about a year or so back, possibly longer. In PvP, everything fell.

Guided Arrows + Multi-Shot + Penetrate.

The only trouble I ever had was running through hell completely solo, but I did it on a few occasions.
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[Litebringer]

yeah um.... re read my post, i dont see how it would seem serious?

[Spux]

I personally prefer the GW story much mroe then the D2 one. imo the d2 story sucked.

[Litebringer]

imo theyre both not great, but if i had to choos eone i duno, d2 didnt have anything great to the story...

i actually didnt see too many bowazons aorund, i was in USEast Ladder (the ladder that was up at this point last year, not the once put up in june) and i had a 92 hammerdin with all the uber gear and they did 14.5k dmg each, it was soooo boring killing things.... just click and you win ><

[Natasha]

imo theyre both not great, but if i had to choos eone i duno, d2 didnt have anything great to the story...

i actually didnt see too many bowazons aorund, i was in USEast Ladder (the ladder that was up at this point last year, not the once put up in june) and i had a 92 hammerdin with all the uber gear and they did 14.5k dmg each, it was soooo boring killing things.... just click and you win ><

USEast Ladder here, too. I played my level 78 Hardcore Druid a lot, too.
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[Mahomet The Templar]

The Knights Templar foundation is born in D2 LoD. We (our founding core members) were strong players in a close knit group know as MH Clan [MHC] (http://www.mhclan.net/). We were on the USEast most all the time. We were primarily a HARDCORE player group with many charcaters in the 80 to high 90's range. We helped one another well...we made sure to help our guys climb levels, got the best equipment and do Mephisto runs all the time.

It was only natural that Guild Wars became an excellent expansion for our group. We desired to be born a new, so we begain Knights Templar over a year ago with the primary intent to assist ArenaNET in Alpha Testing and foster a new Guild that intends to hae a strong presense in Guild Wars as good PvP and PvE/M group of players.

Our journey (as a clan/guild that now plays Guild Wars) tells us that we heartely reccommend this game to all who enjoyed Diablo for certain! If you like a community orientation, then Guild Wars brings that too. The team play of PvP and GvG far out paces my experiences in D2, but does capture some of the flavor from the days past in D2. For a couple, it is great, we have a few couples in KT and it works well! We hope you find Guild Wars as fun, challenging and addicting as we do!

-Mahomet The Templar

[Mattinator]

US East, in all my time playing i had: one level 90, 5 others in low-mid 80's

Diablo 2, what story!?!? lol

jk it had a story, but it wasn't very good. Guild Wars has a better story, but in my opinion it's still bland and doesn't really do a good job of holding your attention. I've been at the second last mission for over a week now and I still haven't even tried to complete it. I don't have incentive to even bother completing the game anytime soon either

[Spux]

so u can farm ring of fire and save the world. but opther then that theres not rly any incentive. Maybe you should get your other 15 attribute points from a bonus section of the last quest. That would make ther be a lot more incentive.

[Red Wrath]

Most of it's already been said.

The story line isn't blazing, but the game is quite good. Just wish the storage areas were bigger! :x

One thing I do like is the allocation of treasure system in GW. In D2 you'd be fighting and someone else would be nicking the treasure instead of helping out, stops a lot of arguements.

Have fun!!!!!

[Mattinator]

Maybe you should get your other 15 attribute points from a bonus section of the last quest. That would make ther be a lot more incentive.

Yup, then I'd do it lol, and there's no point in farming the ring of fire and missions after it. I find better items in the crystal desert anyway, and the crystal desert is also much easier

[Sivetar]

This post may be old, but I figured I'd use an already created thread, rather then making my own.

I currently play WoW, and have since the Beta I have several level 60's have run the highest instances and conquesred them... I am bored, and I am also tired of paying money ever month playing something I am not into at all anymore.

How does GW relate to wow? I love PvP, and I hear that is what this game is about. but I have also heard it gets boring fast as well, and that you have to have create several characters to have one for pvp and one for levelling.

Any information you guys could provide would help in me choosing to dump WoW, or to try and stick it through.

[Natasha]

I see one difference between Guild Wars and World of Warcraft. In WoW, I get to pay money to be bored. In GW, I can just take a break. It isn't an MMORPG, so you don't need to worry about fees. Your account will always be active. It should keep you amused for atleast a month.
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[Mattinator]

This post may be old, but I figured I'd use an already created thread, rather then making my own.

I currently play WoW, and have since the Beta I have several level 60's have run the highest instances and conquesred them... I am bored, and I am also tired of paying money ever month playing something I am not into at all anymore.

How does GW relate to wow? I love PvP, and I hear that is what this game is about. but I have also heard it gets boring fast as well, and that you have to have create several characters to have one for pvp and one for levelling.

Any information you guys could provide would help in me choosing to dump WoW, or to try and stick it through.

PvE is pretty short, and I find it really boring, but that's probably because I've done it about 10 times.... anyway, you can go through the game on your pve character and unlock skills for pvp test characters, or you could just take your pve character all the way through and do pvp with him

The one major difference between the two, is that the classes in Guild Wars are actually balanced, and also there are no uber items that own everything. Oh ya, also I find that the Guild Wars PvP is much faster paced than WoW and requires a lot more strategy. If you're buying Guild Wars chances are you're not buying it for the PvE side of the game, but for the PvP which is loads of fun

[Sivetar]

Thanks for the quick reply mattinator.

PvE gets very old, very fast. PvP is what I am looking for, and the more I read about GW the more it seems tailored for just that. I also like that I don't have to farm for countless hours to get the uber items or gold, and that my skill will actually determine how well I do instead of my lifestyle which may not let me play as long as others.

I think I'll be seeing you all on the battlefield shortly, thanks.

[Mattinator]

No problem, From what you've said, GW sounds good for you, see you soon

if you want tough pvp competition where teamwork is the best method of success then guild wars is for you. with seemingly endless combinations of skills and game expansions in the future, guild wars pvp wont tire.

[Kossan]

sry can't leave the thread without commenting on the storylines of D2LoD and GW, sure the d2 story was alright but i'm sure most ppl didn't play the game for the story, at least not the last 350 hours i spent lol.

as for the GW story i first thought that it was pretty good but the furhter i got into the game the weaker the story got and i got a feeling that i kinda lost track of the story along the way, yes hte coop missions are great for the story but the story itself got (talking about in-game story, the lore has some good ideas .... _trying not to stray from the topic_ ....) pretty much lost soemwhere between the frost gate and when you get in touch with the shining blade, don't even get me started on the lameness (not a word huh? ...well i just invented it...go read some eddings ;) ) of the cut-scenes from sanctum cay to the ...umm...a sth in the crystal desert ...Asmoon? ... no? well you know what im talking about..... the first city in the desert....

[Spux]

You only played D2LoF for 350 hours??

Yes, i have also noticed that the storyline got worse the farther you progress. At first the storyline was good and it felt like you were actually doing something. Then you get to just run a bunch of tasks for the white mantle that dont really feel like the missions at the begining of the game. Then you get to the desert and once again your running tasks to ascend instead of really doing missions.

[Kossan]

nope i played for a lot more than 350 hours but point is that the more you play (after a certain amount of hours and doing all the quests) the less you care about the sroty

[Spux]

I didn't buy GW for the story so i rly dont care that much about it. As long as the gameplay is fun the story doesnt mean much.