Ranger/monk20 that needs help

[longreach]

I have read post after post and still can't make things out. I like poisoning people and trapping because i'm the puller with my group,but i also like to do more damage and interrupping. I do ok but i only get 50 or 60hp, sometimes 30 around war camp.

I have a great bow Drago's flat bow because i like being in the back and also reach people where they can't reach me.

Skill Bar now
apply poision
precision shoot
pentrating attack
pin down
savage shoot (interrupts really good)
flame trap
throw dirt (incase get near me or the monk)
melandru's arrows

Attrubs
healing prayers 1
BM 1
Expertse 12
WS 11
marksmanship 14
Runes
Minor ws,ex,bm
Superior marksmanship, vigor

I would like for someone to help me with this build so i could help my group more, and what skills go with each other.
thanks for anyone's help.:D

[5th_Horseman666]

i meself dont like poison... it looked really cool when i first got it, but then I thought about it and decided that is just wasnt worth it, with -4 degen its the same as 8dmg/sec addition. So over the 16 seconds max (without weapon mod i think this is) its the same as doing 90 or so damage that is degen. With kindle i get good damage addition and in costs 3x less... in the time it takes the 16sec of poison I can put out (assuming 1attack/2seconds) around 100 damage of pure kindle damage at 12 WS... besides with poison you need to either spread it or keep hitting the same target and waist the preparation IMO.


I'd go with poison arrow if you really wanna poison, its just better IMO but it is an elite and there are some that are better, again IMHO. Rather if you can, or have already, go with Incendiary Arrow, that skill absolutely pwns everything when combined with Serpentine, Quickenning is also nice to have...

[longreach]

so you think kinndle does more damage then posion.ok so can you use kinddle with barrage?

[5th_Horseman666]

so you think kinndle does more damage then posion.ok so can you use kinddle with barrage?

i didnt see barrage as the skills you listed, but i dont see how you can use poison either as all preps are removed, or is that after you use Barrage, meaning that the prep still works on 1st shot? (never used barragge meself)
I also noticed just now that you have Milandrus Arrow as an elite, but i'd still swap it for Incediary, unless the Barrage thing works, in which it makes sense.

BTW, i've never actually tried stacking Quickeing with SQuickness... does that work?

[longreach]

i don't have barrage yet going to get it here soon, see i'm trying to find out what would do beeter damage, i see you're point about posion. So if i use kinddle what would i put with it to make it effect better?

[Moo Moo]

Dual Shot
Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Kindle Arrows
Troll Unguent / Run Skill
Whirling Defenses
Rebirth (or another rez)

Expertise 14 (10+3+1), WS 12 (11+1), Marksmanship 11 (10+1)

[STINGER]

No Preps work with Barrage, but Conjures do, so if you wanted to you could go R/E and use a bow with the proper elemental damage for the proper Conjure and its pretty solid damage. You can also go R/Mo and use Judges Insight but it doesnt last as long.

Personally for PvE IMO there is no better combo than Poison Arrow and a Prep like Ignite or Kindle. I prefer Ignite but now with the AI changes Kindle may be a better choice.

Dont under estimate Apply Poison, if you have the atts high and use a poisoners string the duration is much longer. Then spam it around a little and you can do alot with it. I tend to spam PA at the start of each battle, and when I come back to the original target he is almost always near death.

With poison, be sure to take note if there are foes that cant bee poisoned.


Mels Arrows can be simply one of the sickest preps in the game. If you know you are going to see alot of enchanted elly type foes this prep brings a BIG thump to those guys and the bleeding rocks even if they arent enchanted. Dual Shot/Mels + Enchanted Foe = THUMP!

[5th_Horseman666]

So can you stack Quickenning and Serpent?

[STINGER]

So can you stack Quickenning and Serpent?

Well, the answer to that will be is there a cap on skill recharge increase, as both QZ and Searpants should work at the same time. Should be easy to test with traps in a low level area.

Similar things, Degen all works at the same time they dont cancel but its capped at -10 pips. Poison/Desiease/Bleed/Conjure/Migraine/Crippling Anguish...etc

Lingering Curse, Defiale Flesh and Malign Intervention will stack but there is a cap of 50% less healing IIRC.

[5th_Horseman666]

So can you stack Quickenning and Serpent?

Well, the answer to that will be is there a cap on skill recharge increase, as both QZ and Searpants should work at the same time. Should be easy to test with traps in a low level area.

Similar things, Degen all works at the same time they dont cancel but its capped at -10 pips. Poison/Desiease/Bleed/Conjure/Migraine/Crippling Anguish...etc

Lingering Curse, Defiale Flesh and Malign Intervention will stack but there is a cap of 50% less healing IIRC.

alrighty, thanx... i guess i'll go test it on some poor charr bastards, may god have mercy on their hapless souls :)