STINGER
12-12-2006, 05:01 PM
I forgot to post this last night.....may of found an AI issue with Shiro that can make this mission much easier.
I got to Madness with my Ranger. Now I didnt want to take Koss as he has poor stuff and I had been really liking the new Dire Pets I have so I decided to Make Margrid a Thumper with Rampage as One, Irresitable, Wild Blow and Crushing. She used Wild Blow like a champ.
Now, I had been thinking that with Impossible Odds (i think that is the one) getting its "leech" number from the highest damage taken during the stance that if I went to a smaller damage build it might tame Shiros damage alot and make it easier to save those that got attacked.
So I went with this build:
Thumper as mentioned used the Pet Interrupt skill (solid pressure damage, not big just solid and fast)
(ME) Ranger Barrarge Pet no traps (2) interrupts and I would spam them to try and get the occasional interupt (I wanted this for getting there and I figured Barrages modest +16 was solid and not too large to trigger big leech)
Necro SS/Empathy/Price of Failure/Spirit of Failure/Recklas Haste......no Soul Reaping (he was only there for Shiro but did help getting there but his energy went south fast on the way there).
Devona (This one was questionable, but I wanted her Charge to do the bonus. I was concerned that she might land a big hit at the wrong time)
Illusion Hinch
Mehnlo and Khim
My Monk Giflt Booner Hero Shield of Absorb instead of Prot Spirit or Spirit Bond. Pretty much standard MoR but iwht Channeling not Inspired. I find Monk Heros spam PS and SB and those are 10 a pop....I like the Shield of Absorb better.
Since my theory was just small steady damage i thought it would be a good ideaa to up my healing with (3) Monks. Both Khim and the Booner had good protection aka "save your ass stuff" while Mhenlo had his big Word of Healing to throw on top of prot saved people.
Now I had (2) pets, mine was only lvl 15 Dire White Tigger and Margrids is a lvl 20 Lion Hearty.
What was really wild is Shiro was attracted to the pets. When I was running around (Charge was excellent) to get the shrines Shiro would pick on the pets almost exclusively. He did mess with the Necro some as I think he stopped to cast on him some. I considered putting him on avoid but I thought i would forget and then that would suck to have him not hexing Shiro later.
Anyway, i got all the shrines and then I went after Shiro. He STAYED on my lvl 15 pet. he died a couple times before I realized what was going on and each time he died he went to the other pet so I rezzed mine and went to about a 50/50 Heal/Attack skill use and I kept Shiros attention. One time Shiro got his combo off and killed both pets quickly and almost got Margrid but she broke it up with a Wild Blow and the Monks saved her (she was nearly dead)......then both pets rezzed and he went right back to the pets with his damage and died shortly after.
I think I found (2) answers for this mission........Pet aggro and lower damage but steady and faster aka the Rampage as One means the Thumper and Pet were both attacking really fast.......SS and Empathy are both under 35 damage each as my Necro has only minor runes.....I think Spoil Victor "might" trigger high leeech and one bad thing about SV is that once his life is low(below yours) it stops working for you. No Big Searing Flames hits which i had always taken in the past, no Dervs Chilling Victory or the Bigger hitting Wild Blows (always crits) of a Warrior.
BTW.....The Lich also spent more time messing with the pets but he was a push over as my Necro (Power Drain and Leech Sig) and myself both had (2) interrupts and the Illusion Hench also has one.
So......I suggest.....the lower damage approach and Pets to anyone trying to get past this thing and please post how it goes for you.
I got to Madness with my Ranger. Now I didnt want to take Koss as he has poor stuff and I had been really liking the new Dire Pets I have so I decided to Make Margrid a Thumper with Rampage as One, Irresitable, Wild Blow and Crushing. She used Wild Blow like a champ.
Now, I had been thinking that with Impossible Odds (i think that is the one) getting its "leech" number from the highest damage taken during the stance that if I went to a smaller damage build it might tame Shiros damage alot and make it easier to save those that got attacked.
So I went with this build:
Thumper as mentioned used the Pet Interrupt skill (solid pressure damage, not big just solid and fast)
(ME) Ranger Barrarge Pet no traps (2) interrupts and I would spam them to try and get the occasional interupt (I wanted this for getting there and I figured Barrages modest +16 was solid and not too large to trigger big leech)
Necro SS/Empathy/Price of Failure/Spirit of Failure/Recklas Haste......no Soul Reaping (he was only there for Shiro but did help getting there but his energy went south fast on the way there).
Devona (This one was questionable, but I wanted her Charge to do the bonus. I was concerned that she might land a big hit at the wrong time)
Illusion Hinch
Mehnlo and Khim
My Monk Giflt Booner Hero Shield of Absorb instead of Prot Spirit or Spirit Bond. Pretty much standard MoR but iwht Channeling not Inspired. I find Monk Heros spam PS and SB and those are 10 a pop....I like the Shield of Absorb better.
Since my theory was just small steady damage i thought it would be a good ideaa to up my healing with (3) Monks. Both Khim and the Booner had good protection aka "save your ass stuff" while Mhenlo had his big Word of Healing to throw on top of prot saved people.
Now I had (2) pets, mine was only lvl 15 Dire White Tigger and Margrids is a lvl 20 Lion Hearty.
What was really wild is Shiro was attracted to the pets. When I was running around (Charge was excellent) to get the shrines Shiro would pick on the pets almost exclusively. He did mess with the Necro some as I think he stopped to cast on him some. I considered putting him on avoid but I thought i would forget and then that would suck to have him not hexing Shiro later.
Anyway, i got all the shrines and then I went after Shiro. He STAYED on my lvl 15 pet. he died a couple times before I realized what was going on and each time he died he went to the other pet so I rezzed mine and went to about a 50/50 Heal/Attack skill use and I kept Shiros attention. One time Shiro got his combo off and killed both pets quickly and almost got Margrid but she broke it up with a Wild Blow and the Monks saved her (she was nearly dead)......then both pets rezzed and he went right back to the pets with his damage and died shortly after.
I think I found (2) answers for this mission........Pet aggro and lower damage but steady and faster aka the Rampage as One means the Thumper and Pet were both attacking really fast.......SS and Empathy are both under 35 damage each as my Necro has only minor runes.....I think Spoil Victor "might" trigger high leeech and one bad thing about SV is that once his life is low(below yours) it stops working for you. No Big Searing Flames hits which i had always taken in the past, no Dervs Chilling Victory or the Bigger hitting Wild Blows (always crits) of a Warrior.
BTW.....The Lich also spent more time messing with the pets but he was a push over as my Necro (Power Drain and Leech Sig) and myself both had (2) interrupts and the Illusion Hench also has one.
So......I suggest.....the lower damage approach and Pets to anyone trying to get past this thing and please post how it goes for you.